Is the education system really to blame for our poor level of Irish?

Every discussion of the Irish language follows the same weary, repetitive track. No matter how the conversation begins, sooner or later, the education system gets blamed. That is why we don’t speak Irish – because it wasn’t taught right to us. The teachers failed to show the beauty of Gaeilge and cultivate a love of the language in their students. If only we could find the right way of teaching Irish, then we’d all be fluent.

But I’ve always been sceptical of this excuse. As a student, I did poorly at Irish, but this was because I had no genuine interest in the language. It was just another subject and I cared as much about it as I did about geography or maths. I had good and bad teachers but none that convinced me to see Irish as anything other than something I needed to know for the exam. No teacher inspired a love for it, but then again, I felt no love or passion for any subject, except for history (and that was due to my own interest rather than any teacher).

The number one complaint I hear about the education system is that it doesn’t inspire passion in students about Irish and make them care about the language. This is true, but the same can be said about every subject. For most students, they are lucky if there are one or two subjects they genuinely engage with and there are many students who never care about a single subject they have to study. The teaching of Irish may fail the nationalist dream of raising a new generation with a deep connection to their heritage, respect for Gaelic culture and passion for the language, but no subject reaches this high standard of making a generation of students passionate about the topic.

If you look at how we teach foreign languages, there’s not much of a difference. French was taught to me in much the same way as Irish was, in fact for several years I had the same teacher for both subjects. I did much better in French mainly due to greater personal interest and lower standard. This is an important point, despite the fact that many students complain about having better French after only four years than fourteen years of Irish, the standard is much higher for Irish. French has only one exam paper, with a heavy focus on comprehension and only a short letter than needs to be written. Irish on the other hand has two exam papers, requiring multiple essays, discussions on poetry, a novel and the history of the language.

A common complaint is that “Irish is taught as if it’s our native language” which is very odd if you think about it. What people mean is that it’s taught to a high level with students presumed to be following, instead of stopping to explain the meaning of each word. This process can understandably more too fast for some students, but how else are people supposed to reach fluency? The basics would have been covered in primary school (that’s when the teacher explains each word) so by secondary school, the student should be ready to move onto more advanced material. So, yes Irish is taught at a more advanced level than French or other foreign languages, but that’s because students have been studying it longer. It would be a sign of complete failure if students were still being taught the basics.

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Part of the problem with the discussion is that the complaints often contradict each other. Some say there is too much emphasis on poetry and other such nonsense which students don’t need, instead the focus should be just on the core elements like grammar. But others say the opposite, that grammar puts students to sleep, they should instead focus on the cultural side of the language like poetry. Others say the focus shouldn’t be on either, just on speaking the language, but there already is an oral exam is worth 40% of the Leaving Cert grade in Irish, so how much more of a focus can be added? Some complain that students need to be immersed in the language, others that there is too much immersion and it’s drowning them. It’s hard to reach a goal if there is such confusion as to what the goal should be. Irish has been a core education subject for almost a century, if there is a more effective way of teaching it, why has no one tried it?

A strong counter to the claim that the education system is the cause of the poor level of Irish, is the fact students have the highest levels of Irish in the country (outside the Gaeltacht). The average person’s knowledge of Irish peaks at the leaving cert, it then declines over years because they don’t use it anymore. Knowledge of a language is like any skill, without use and practice it will decline. The main problem isn’t that the education system fails to teach Irish to a high enough level, it’s that we rarely use Irish outside of the education system. The reason students in Europe succeed in becoming fluent in English is because they want to become fluent and are willing to put the time and effort into doing so.

Now, I’m not a teacher, but when I was living in Slovakia I helped out with English classes at the local school because I was practically the only native English speaker in the town. It was interesting to compare the how English was taught with how we teach Irish. The most interesting part was how little of a difference there was. Students would read texts, listen to dialogues and try to have a conversation. The teachers didn’t have particularly high levels of English or much resources. The level wasn’t too different from leaving cert students at Irish, there were a few who could barely string a sentence together, but most could hold a conversation and a handful spoke to a very high level. The experience of teaching it wasn’t much different from teaching any language, students weren’t inspired to love the language, it was just another subject to them.

Yet some of these students would eventually go on to get jobs using English, move to English speaking countries and become fluent in the language. So why do they progress much further than students of Irish? It’s not due to any superior teaching method or a better education system. The main difference is that the students want to learn English. They consider it a useful skill that will help them get jobs, watch movies, read books, understand music lyrics etc. Irish students on the other hand consider Irish to be a useless subject, no more worthwhile than learning Latin. This links into a second difference, namely they actually use the language outside the classroom. They could access media in the English language, meet tourists who only spoke English (like me), visit English speaking countries. Other than a summer holiday to the Gaeltacht (where you can still use English) where can students use Irish? I can’t remember a single time I used Irish outside of school (even trying to use it as a secret language abroad didn’t work). Even my sister who went to a Gaelscoil until Leaving Cert never spoke Irish outside the classroom, even with her friends from school who were fluent.

There is only one way to change the education system that I can see that could boost knowledge of Irish: convert all schools to gaelscoileanna. But even purely Irish-only education would not make Irish a dominant language in Ireland. Let’s put aside the enormous costs involved in training all teachers to be fluent in Irish and the tricky issue of children born outside of Ireland. Even though this would boost grades students get in Irish, it wouldn’t change the underlying fact that almost everything in Ireland outside the education system is conducted in English. Students aren’t idiots, they know this, so they would resist and use English whenever a teacher wasn’t present and as soon as they leave the school grounds they would revert to their native language. Even gaelscoil students who are fluent in Irish mostly prefer to use English.

This is the fundamental reason why Irish people don’t speak Irish: it’s because we don’t want to. Neither students nor adults will learn Irish unless they consider it a productive use of their time and can use the language. I understand why people blame the education system, as doing so absolves us of guilt and embarrassment. It also offers us the hope that centuries of linguistic decline could be reversed if we just changed how we teach the language. But unfortunately, no matter how the language is taught, students won’t engage with the subject unless they see some benefit in doing so. If they only do so because they have an exam on it, then they will only learn what they need for the exam and forget everything afterwards.

10 thoughts on “Is the education system really to blame for our poor level of Irish?”

  1. Well, up to age 16-17 I was horrible in English – to the point that I was better in Latin then English. What made the change for me, is not there was any change in the school curriculum, but that I started to read the English Wikipedia on subjects I really cared about. Nowadays I quite fluently in English – close to my fluency in my native tongue.

    1. You exhibit Robert’s point: reading Wikipedia gave you a reason to learn English. Aside from culture and immigrant labor, Ireland honestly has not contributed much to modern society outside of Ireland; by contrast, the U.S. and U.K. have been so involved in geopolitics that even reading every English Wikipedia page on them will not completely cover the nations.

      What I think the Irish can do is to up the work done on humanitarian projects. Currently, more foreigners learn Irish than students in Ireland—with a serious humanitarian mission in the name of Ireland, even more people will care to learn the land’s culture & language. But, that will never succeed until the other subjects Robert mentions (geography, maths, and also science, economics, politics, ethics, and business) are things Irish students are proficient in. Without knowledge, no Irish humanitarian will contribute much, and no people will be inspired to learn the language.

      1. Incredibly ingnorant Posting I’m afraid James you sound like you need to go back and re-educate yourself!
        I was educated in Ireland and loved learning Irish and had an incredibly inspiring teacher, and believe the Irish educational system to produce some of the most inspiring academics in the world. If you can’t think of any then I seriously question your intelligence.
        Not to mention Irish monks and nuns without whom we would have no modern educated world in the first place.

        1. I know John Tyndall, WB Yeats, and Oscar Wilde all benefitted from an Irish education, yet foreign lands from Ireland have gained little to nothing from these successful academics. Christians in Ireland preserved Christianity, which became the basis of western civilization due to them, but they did not receive an Irish education. May you name an academic from Ireland who contributed to global society?

  2. I am desperately trying to support my daughter as she learns Irish in primary school. The teacher teaches almost exclusively aurally, which doesn’t suit my daughter’s learning style (she’s visual) so she gets lost in class. I’ve been trying to support teaching supports for parents at home and have drawn a blank. I’ve scoured the internet, asked teachers and friends fluent in Irish. At the moment we’re using DuoLingo and Google translate. I think it’s so sad that successive governments haven’t managed to provide parents who want their children to learn Irish, the tools required to do so when the teaching in school is falling short.

  3. The actual reason is that Irish is an artificial language based on what the 18th century peasants spoke. As Irishmen are living in the 21st century and are no longer peasants, it is impossible for them to use the original Irish. And no one takes what the 19th century Nazis produced to make it appear a living, modern language seriously. People do not like being pawns in some scammers’ game.

    1. Hi Elhana, Dia duit. Can you provide sources and details about how Irish is an artificial language? How do you mean it is artificial? Is it invented like the way Ludwik Zamenhof invented Esperanto? You mentioned 19th century Nazis. It is not clear to whom or what you are referring as the Nazis were only formed in 1920. Would you mind clarifying these points?

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